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#21 · February 19, 2024, 12:12 am

Quote from Sherwin Lao on February 19, 2024, 12:12 am
(1) How do you know when you’re trusting in the Holy Spirit, and when you’re trusting in your own strengths? Is it a bad thing to rely on your own strengths, especially if you know you have the competence, capabilities and/or resources?

As a human with his own “free will”, it will always be tempting to act and do things according to our preferences and likings. Likewise, for a man who loves to plan on his own, it is hard to rely on others to accomplish things. That is exactly what God is asking us to do, not to rely on our own understanding but instead Trust in the Lord with all our heart. And in all our ways, acknowledge Him, and He will make our paths straight. When we find ourselves in a situation where we look/ expect for people to praise or admire us, then this could be a good signal that we are trusting in ourselves and not in the Holy Spirit. Because the Spirit of God makes us humble. Like little children seeking refuge and protection of their guardians. We cannot do things on our own, we need a higher being to teach us the ways and guide us into the right path. And only through our humility , we will find solace with our creator. But the question now is , how ready are we to take off from the driver seat and allow Jesus to take the wheel?

(2) We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

It is easy to remember God whenever we are down. We may pray for His mercy, and we pray for His forgiveness. And often times we ask Him to help us and carry us up to his care. But how about when we are succeeding? Do we have that eagerness to thank Him and be grateful? I vividly recall the story of Jesus healing the ten lepers, all of them acknowledged Jesus. They knew who Jesus was and His capabilities to heal them. They all cried out help and forgiveness. And when they were forgiven and healed by God, only one returned back and praise Him. I use this passage to always remind myself to be grateful. For God is my God during my ups and my downs.

(3) How real is this possibility in your current state of service: that there would be moments when we behave as if we don’t need Jesus in our lives? Like, in what situations had you (before), or might you (in the future), be confident on your own capabilities, and how are you prone to taking matters into our hands?

Doing the same things and tasks for several years makes it a routine. It brings out familiarity and complacency. And that is very dangerous. It gives us a mindset where everything could be easy. We rely on our experiences and own knowledge and know-how , which will lead us into reliance on our own strength and capabilities. But Jesus is reminding us that we must always be careful, because complacency and pride await us. As Peter also reminds us in 1 Peter 5:8, Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Antidote for pride is humility. In all times, be humble. Because we are nothing compared to the greatness of our God.

Finally, what kind of support can you seek from, and give to, your fellow leaders to ensure that our faith and trust in the Lord is solid, and so that we can live out this exhortation by Paul: 1 Cor. 15:58 – “Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.”

I value the feedback from my leaders. I believe leaders in the community were anointed by God to guide, guard and provide. They are chosen and hand-picked by God to shepherd His flock and empower them all together. So I humble myself to be taught. I continue to acknowledge that my spirituality is always a work in progress. I seek God’s grace through my brothers and sisters in the community. I know that alone, I cannot make it. But to journey with faithful brothers and sisters will enable me to grow more my faith in God.

(1) How do you know when you’re trusting in the Holy Spirit, and when you’re trusting in your own strengths? Is it a bad thing to rely on your own strengths, especially if you know you have the competence, capabilities and/or resources?

As a human with his own “free will”, it will always be tempting to act and do things according to our preferences and likings. Likewise, for a man who loves to plan on his own, it is hard to rely on others to accomplish things. That is exactly what God is asking us to do, not to rely on our own understanding but instead Trust in the Lord with all our heart. And in all our ways, acknowledge Him, and He will make our paths straight. When we find ourselves in a situation where we look/ expect for people to praise or admire us, then this could be a good signal that we are trusting in ourselves and not in the Holy Spirit. Because the Spirit of God makes us humble. Like little children seeking refuge and protection of their guardians. We cannot do things on our own, we need a higher being to teach us the ways and guide us into the right path. And only through our humility , we will find solace with our creator. But the question now is , how ready are we to take off from the driver seat and allow Jesus to take the wheel?

(2) We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

It is easy to remember God whenever we are down. We may pray for His mercy, and we pray for His forgiveness. And often times we ask Him to help us and carry us up to his care. But how about when we are succeeding? Do we have that eagerness to thank Him and be grateful? I vividly recall the story of Jesus healing the ten lepers, all of them acknowledged Jesus. They knew who Jesus was and His capabilities to heal them. They all cried out help and forgiveness. And when they were forgiven and healed by God, only one returned back and praise Him. I use this passage to always remind myself to be grateful. For God is my God during my ups and my downs.

(3) How real is this possibility in your current state of service: that there would be moments when we behave as if we don’t need Jesus in our lives? Like, in what situations had you (before), or might you (in the future), be confident on your own capabilities, and how are you prone to taking matters into our hands?

Doing the same things and tasks for several years makes it a routine. It brings out familiarity and complacency. And that is very dangerous. It gives us a mindset where everything could be easy. We rely on our experiences and own knowledge and know-how , which will lead us into reliance on our own strength and capabilities. But Jesus is reminding us that we must always be careful, because complacency and pride await us. As Peter also reminds us in 1 Peter 5:8, Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Antidote for pride is humility. In all times, be humble. Because we are nothing compared to the greatness of our God.

Finally, what kind of support can you seek from, and give to, your fellow leaders to ensure that our faith and trust in the Lord is solid, and so that we can live out this exhortation by Paul: 1 Cor. 15:58 – “Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.”

I value the feedback from my leaders. I believe leaders in the community were anointed by God to guide, guard and provide. They are chosen and hand-picked by God to shepherd His flock and empower them all together. So I humble myself to be taught. I continue to acknowledge that my spirituality is always a work in progress. I seek God’s grace through my brothers and sisters in the community. I know that alone, I cannot make it. But to journey with faithful brothers and sisters will enable me to grow more my faith in God.

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#22 · February 19, 2024, 2:33 am

Quote from Dennis Sulit on February 19, 2024, 2:33 am
(1) How do you know when you’re trusting in the Holy Spirit, and when you’re trusting in your own strengths? Is it a bad thing to rely on your own strengths, especially if you know you have the competence, capabilities and/or resources?

In my profession, we are trained to use our skills and resources to recognize and respond promptly to a problem or situation. I have personally experienced Kairos moments wherein it is only when I totally surrendered a situation to the Holy Spirit and the outcome cannot be explained by anything except but that it was a moment of grace. Over the years I have learned to call on the Holy Spirit first then use my skills and resources afterwards. I find myself more at peace when guided by the Holy Spirit and doing God’s will even when the outcomes are not desirable from our perspective.

(2) We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

I must admit there are moments when I am filled with pride for the success of a service or the accomplishments of a member under my care. I take great caution in not reveling in the accolades and always remember to give thanks to God and to give Him all the credit. I have made it a habit to give thanks to God even for the challenges and struggles as well because I know He has not abandoned me. My protection is to pray and give thanks always. (1 Thes 5:16-18) “Rejoice, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus”.

(3) How real is this possibility in your current state of service: that there would be moments when we behave as if we don’t need Jesus in our lives? Like, in what situations had you (before), or might you (in the future), be confident on your own capabilities, and how are you prone to taking matters into our hands?

My love language is service. So my natural response to God’s unconditional love for me is to serve unconditionally. I have often been asked to serve in areas that are not in my skill set. I am comforted in my discomfort of my service because I know it is only through the grace of the Holy Spirit working in me that I am able to serve in my capacity. I become wary when I start to become comfortable in my service and feel that there are no problems that I start to think that I am in control. I always keep the image of the unprofitable servant as I have only done which was our duty to do.

Finally, what kind of support can you seek from, and give to, your fellow leaders to ensure that our faith and trust in the Lord is solid, and so that we can live out this exhortation by Paul: 1 Cor. 15:58 – “Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.”

Our role as leaders is difficult and we are blessed to have a group of brothers who are both human and models of faith and a source of encouragement. The early church started with leaders telling stories, giving feedback and exhorting one another to remain faithful. I am encouraged the Spirit of the church lives on in our community.

In my profession, we are trained to use our skills and resources to recognize and respond promptly to a problem or situation. I have personally experienced Kairos moments wherein it is only when I totally surrendered a situation to the Holy Spirit and the outcome cannot be explained by anything except but that it was a moment of grace. Over the years I have learned to call on the Holy Spirit first then use my skills and resources afterwards. I find myself more at peace when guided by the Holy Spirit and doing God’s will even when the outcomes are not desirable from our perspective.

(2) We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

I must admit there are moments when I am filled with pride for the success of a service or the accomplishments of a member under my care. I take great caution in not reveling in the accolades and always remember to give thanks to God and to give Him all the credit. I have made it a habit to give thanks to God even for the challenges and struggles as well because I know He has not abandoned me. My protection is to pray and give thanks always. (1 Thes 5:16-18) “Rejoice, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus”.

My love language is service. So my natural response to God’s unconditional love for me is to serve unconditionally. I have often been asked to serve in areas that are not in my skill set. I am comforted in my discomfort of my service because I know it is only through the grace of the Holy Spirit working in me that I am able to serve in my capacity. I become wary when I start to become comfortable in my service and feel that there are no problems that I start to think that I am in control. I always keep the image of the unprofitable servant as I have only done which was our duty to do.

Our role as leaders is difficult and we are blessed to have a group of brothers who are both human and models of faith and a source of encouragement. The early church started with leaders telling stories, giving feedback and exhorting one another to remain faithful. I am encouraged the Spirit of the church lives on in our community.

#23 · February 19, 2024, 8:35 am

I still don't know if I am now relying on the Holy Spirit. I believe and know that I still rely on my own strengths and capabilities. I would like to pray that I would learn and rely on the Holy Spirit first.
Success is not a bad thing. But, we should watch out for success. We may think that we did it ourselves, we may believe too much on our own capabilities and not reply on the Holy Spirit and the Lord.
For me, it is still very real, and because of instinct and training. I would like to learn more on how not to act and decide by myself. I learn from scriptures that it is the Lord's work which does and provide everything for us. Miracles, acts, etc. Most likely, putting him first rather than me is the first step to take. However, it is easier said than done as of the moment.

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#24 · February 19, 2024, 11:20 am

Quote from Johnny Yu on February 18, 2024, 8:31 pm

I think it is very normal for any human being to look at his strengths and capabilitites in any given situation, but ultimately, I always lift this up to the Lord and allow Him to guide me because my strength and knowledge are not enough. It is also very common to be discouraged if things don't turn out well, and the more I call on the Holy Spirit for grace to fill me in.

The danger of success is the feeling of self-gratification, and believing that it was all because of one's own work. We need to constantly guard our thoughts by openly sharing the gift of the Holy Spirit, and the contribution of others.

I think i'm not in a situation to believe that I dont need Jesus because of confidence on my own capabilities. My current service requires much time to pray and pastoral work, which i cannot possibly do without the grace from God. It would probably have been different if i were still the district servant, where much of the work are administrative, and i would have probably fall into the trap of thinking i can easily do the tasks without much help.

I think the best service that one can give and at the same time ask from brothers and sisters is to pray for one another and be present for one another, thru witnessing in living out our faith.

I agree with this post bro and you have been a great witness to us, even to the point of sharing your innermost and personal experiences which sometimes hinder us because it makes us vulnerable ("baka kung ano ang sasabihin nila...")

Putting out in the open, I believe, is the same as showing it in the light and it is where the Lord really can work in our lives

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#25 · February 20, 2024, 8:23 am

Quote from Alex Filamor on February 20, 2024, 8:23 am

Quote from James Labayo on February 10, 2024, 10:59 am

Brothers, allow me to present my views by responding to the reflection guides one by one.

(1) How do you know when you’re trusting in the Holy Spirit, and when you’re trusting in your own strengths? Is it a bad thing to rely on your own strengths, especially if you know you have the competence, capabilities and/or resources?

Trusting in the Holy Spirit usually happens whenever I am focused on the Lord and not me. It involves being open to His leading, offering the mission that is before me and praying at all times. The latter is whenever I am focused on myself and not the Lord. Most of the time, one will know if it is the Holy Spirit’s or oneself after the event. Everything is clearer in hindsight.

Strengths and abilities are God’s gift. It is not a bad thing to rely on my own strength as long as God is acknowledged and the act will glorify Him.

(2) We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

We need to watch out for is self-glorification. A sense of being superior over God. We can also call it self-entitlement. One example is thinking that your prayer intentions should always be answered positively by God because you deserved it. Another example is being proud over one’s accomplishment and thinking lowly of others.

(3) How real is this possibility in your current state of service: that there would be moments when we behave as if we don’t need Jesus in our lives? Like, in what situations had you (before), or might you (in the future), be confident on your own capabilities, and how are you prone to taking matters into our hands?

This example does not usually happen to me. It is when you have MWG meetings and during MG discussions, you think that you alone can handle all the concerns of the members. Prayer becomes an option once everything fails.

Normally, while people are sharing, I pray silently and asks God what He wants me to say to the sharer afterwards.

Finally, what kind of support can you seek from, and give to, your fellow leaders to ensure that our faith and trust in the Lord is solid, and so that we can live out this exhortation by Paul: 1 Cor. 15:58 – “Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.”

To end, I appeal that we lead by example. Living our Ligaya way of life is difficult more so serving in it. I need model brother leaders who I can emulate. Just like everyone, through the years, God allowed me to be formed through different brothers and sisters in community. May we be together in this journey Brothers!

Hi Bro James, our life as servant leaders always has this tendency to check ourselves like "tama ba ito?", "okay ba na gawin ko ito?" ... what I have learned is that those are tactics of the enemy to confuse us and to clutter our minds. I agree with you that basking in the Holy Spirit and faithfulness in our way of life will help to counter this. God bless you more bro 🙏🏻

Quote from James Labayo on February 10, 2024, 10:59 am

Brothers, allow me to present my views by responding to the reflection guides one by one.

(1) How do you know when you’re trusting in the Holy Spirit, and when you’re trusting in your own strengths? Is it a bad thing to rely on your own strengths, especially if you know you have the competence, capabilities and/or resources?

Trusting in the Holy Spirit usually happens whenever I am focused on the Lord and not me. It involves being open to His leading, offering the mission that is before me and praying at all times. The latter is whenever I am focused on myself and not the Lord. Most of the time, one will know if it is the Holy Spirit’s or oneself after the event. Everything is clearer in hindsight.

Strengths and abilities are God’s gift. It is not a bad thing to rely on my own strength as long as God is acknowledged and the act will glorify Him.

(2) We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

We need to watch out for is self-glorification. A sense of being superior over God. We can also call it self-entitlement. One example is thinking that your prayer intentions should always be answered positively by God because you deserved it. Another example is being proud over one’s accomplishment and thinking lowly of others.

(3) How real is this possibility in your current state of service: that there would be moments when we behave as if we don’t need Jesus in our lives? Like, in what situations had you (before), or might you (in the future), be confident on your own capabilities, and how are you prone to taking matters into our hands?

This example does not usually happen to me. It is when you have MWG meetings and during MG discussions, you think that you alone can handle all the concerns of the members. Prayer becomes an option once everything fails.

Normally, while people are sharing, I pray silently and asks God what He wants me to say to the sharer afterwards.

Finally, what kind of support can you seek from, and give to, your fellow leaders to ensure that our faith and trust in the Lord is solid, and so that we can live out this exhortation by Paul: 1 Cor. 15:58 – “Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.”

To end, I appeal that we lead by example. Living our Ligaya way of life is difficult more so serving in it. I need model brother leaders who I can emulate. Just like everyone, through the years, God allowed me to be formed through different brothers and sisters in community. May we be together in this journey Brothers!

Hi Bro James, our life as servant leaders always has this tendency to check ourselves like "tama ba ito?", "okay ba na gawin ko ito?" ... what I have learned is that those are tactics of the enemy to confuse us and to clutter our minds. I agree with you that basking in the Holy Spirit and faithfulness in our way of life will help to counter this. God bless you more bro 🙏🏻

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#26 · February 20, 2024, 8:34 am

Quote from Alex Filamor on February 20, 2024, 8:34 am

Quote from Gary Cabalde on February 12, 2024, 12:28 am

My reflections on these:

(1) How do you know when you’re trusting in the Holy Spirit, and when you’re trusting in your own strengths? Is it a bad thing to rely on your own strengths, especially if you know you have the competence, capabilities and/or resources?

I don't know if at all times, i trust the Holy Spirit and honestly, there are many times that i forget to ask for God's guidance in certain circumstances of my life. I love making a sign of the cross without any special reason as it became a habit for me (even when i was young) to do it as a way to remind myself to remain connected with Him but does that mean that i am trust Him at all times with that action?

I don't think that relying on my strengths is a bad thing although i always remind myself that i am nothing if not for the Lord who gave me everything. I could still vividly recall the 1:1 i had with God when i was starting in my career and i had nothing in my pocket (zero, bankrupt pa nga since i have credit card to pay). I already sensed that God would deliver me from my current impoverished situation, and He did. Who am i then to deserve what i have in life if not for the Lord? If i sense that pride sips into my life, i would always go back to my struggles and how God delivered me from those difficult moments.

(2) We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

Yabang and pride as if it was my own effort that made me successful. Complency is another matter since "i've been there and done that" that i think i can handle service with an ease without trusting the Lord and seeking His direction first.

(3) How real is this possibility in your current state of service: that there would be moments when we behave as if we don’t need Jesus in our lives? Like, in what situations had you (before), or might you (in the future), be confident on your own capabilities, and how are you prone to taking matters into our hands?

This still happens to me even if i've been in the community more than half of my life....my failure to make it a default that when things are not going well with my service, i should seek Jesus first before finding another solution. Most of the time, i would think of my solutions to the problem or analyze what went wrong or what could i've done better to avoid the problem i was facing.....i would only seek Jesus once i realize that my solutions are not fit or impossible to do (feeling superman!)

Finally, what kind of support can you seek from, and give to, your fellow leaders to ensure that our faith and trust in the Lord is solid, and so that we can live out this exhortation by Paul: 1 Cor. 15:58 – “Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.”

Needless to state the obvious about the importance of prayer time (ie. setting aside a specific time) but i believe prayer time must be "all the time" meaning, keeping Him in our hearts and minds especially when we become engrossed with what we are doing (like our work/job). Making a sign of the cross for me is something that i will continue to do even probably when get to my senior years (imagine me making one after leaving a CR inside a mall and people will see me making that sign of the cross, weird man! well it doesn't matter to me since everytime i do that, i am reminded to connect with God even for a short second or so and it helps me remain grounded on Him

Hi Bro Gary C, as always I am amazed by your reflections and wisdom. Pride, Yabang, Self-Confidence ... that is the weapon of the devil to put down a man whose life is in the LORD. I like the act of making the sign of the cross 👍. God bless you more bro.

Quote from Gary Cabalde on February 12, 2024, 12:28 am

My reflections on these:

(1) How do you know when you’re trusting in the Holy Spirit, and when you’re trusting in your own strengths? Is it a bad thing to rely on your own strengths, especially if you know you have the competence, capabilities and/or resources?

I don't know if at all times, i trust the Holy Spirit and honestly, there are many times that i forget to ask for God's guidance in certain circumstances of my life. I love making a sign of the cross without any special reason as it became a habit for me (even when i was young) to do it as a way to remind myself to remain connected with Him but does that mean that i am trust Him at all times with that action?

I don't think that relying on my strengths is a bad thing although i always remind myself that i am nothing if not for the Lord who gave me everything. I could still vividly recall the 1:1 i had with God when i was starting in my career and i had nothing in my pocket (zero, bankrupt pa nga since i have credit card to pay). I already sensed that God would deliver me from my current impoverished situation, and He did. Who am i then to deserve what i have in life if not for the Lord? If i sense that pride sips into my life, i would always go back to my struggles and how God delivered me from those difficult moments.

(2) We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

Yabang and pride as if it was my own effort that made me successful. Complency is another matter since "i've been there and done that" that i think i can handle service with an ease without trusting the Lord and seeking His direction first.

(3) How real is this possibility in your current state of service: that there would be moments when we behave as if we don’t need Jesus in our lives? Like, in what situations had you (before), or might you (in the future), be confident on your own capabilities, and how are you prone to taking matters into our hands?

This still happens to me even if i've been in the community more than half of my life....my failure to make it a default that when things are not going well with my service, i should seek Jesus first before finding another solution. Most of the time, i would think of my solutions to the problem or analyze what went wrong or what could i've done better to avoid the problem i was facing.....i would only seek Jesus once i realize that my solutions are not fit or impossible to do (feeling superman!)

Finally, what kind of support can you seek from, and give to, your fellow leaders to ensure that our faith and trust in the Lord is solid, and so that we can live out this exhortation by Paul: 1 Cor. 15:58 – “Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.”

Needless to state the obvious about the importance of prayer time (ie. setting aside a specific time) but i believe prayer time must be "all the time" meaning, keeping Him in our hearts and minds especially when we become engrossed with what we are doing (like our work/job). Making a sign of the cross for me is something that i will continue to do even probably when get to my senior years (imagine me making one after leaving a CR inside a mall and people will see me making that sign of the cross, weird man! well it doesn't matter to me since everytime i do that, i am reminded to connect with God even for a short second or so and it helps me remain grounded on Him

Hi Bro Gary C, as always I am amazed by your reflections and wisdom. Pride, Yabang, Self-Confidence ... that is the weapon of the devil to put down a man whose life is in the LORD. I like the act of making the sign of the cross 👍. God bless you more bro.

#27 · February 20, 2024, 9:30 am

Quote from Alex Filamor on February 20, 2024, 9:30 am

Quote from Noel Lugue on February 16, 2024, 12:00 am

1. One way to know if you are trusting in the Holy Spirit is if you trust in the Holy Spirit.

It is during the Pandemic that I came to know more deeply about who the Holy Spirit is into my life. That God can accomplish things thru me through the power of the His Spirit. In service , in mission, in serving Tahanan, in fund raising, etc. Thus, if I entrust to Him every thing I do, I trust that whatever the outcome , I have already humbly prayed for it to the Holy Spirit , and I shall trust no matter what happens.

There are things that we do naturally because of our God given talents and strengths and we have to use them for His glory . That’s good.

But relying on them has not been a Christian disposition.

I can do all things in Him who strengthens me.

2. We have to watch out for our emotion’s stability. That if we bear fruit and successful, we remain humble before the Lord,

that it is by His grace and Spirit

that we are able to accomplish wonders and accomplishments.

3. These questions has crossed my mind a lot of times . And I have learned something new :

We will never really know if our motives have been pure or not.

If we are doing it on our own or not.

Kapag ganito, we will also miss the joy of doing mission.

Babalik ka sa Trust in the Lord.

Pinagdasal mo succesful.

Pinagdasal mo palpak.

Thank and Trust pa rin.

4. -Let’s continue to offer our 5 loaves and two fish to the Lord, including our imperfections. And He will bless it exponentially.

- Be humble

We strip ourselves of our experiences , talents and knowledge , when we come before God. Then we can expect power from Him.

- Pray unceasingly

- Be vigilant

Hi Bro Noel, as I reflect on your sharing I was brought to memory lane during my days as the National Administrator of CYA. I was humbled before the Lord on how He changed my outlook in service. It is pure grace from above so that we can be humble enough to face God on whatever outcome of the things that we do. Mabuhay ka bro at lagi kitang ipagdadasal 🙏🏻.

Quote from Noel Lugue on February 16, 2024, 12:00 am

1. One way to know if you are trusting in the Holy Spirit is if you trust in the Holy Spirit.

It is during the Pandemic that I came to know more deeply about who the Holy Spirit is into my life. That God can accomplish things thru me through the power of the His Spirit. In service , in mission, in serving Tahanan, in fund raising, etc. Thus, if I entrust to Him every thing I do, I trust that whatever the outcome , I have already humbly prayed for it to the Holy Spirit , and I shall trust no matter what happens.

There are things that we do naturally because of our God given talents and strengths and we have to use them for His glory . That’s good.

But relying on them has not been a Christian disposition.

I can do all things in Him who strengthens me.

2. We have to watch out for our emotion’s stability. That if we bear fruit and successful, we remain humble before the Lord,

that it is by His grace and Spirit

that we are able to accomplish wonders and accomplishments.

3. These questions has crossed my mind a lot of times . And I have learned something new :

We will never really know if our motives have been pure or not.

If we are doing it on our own or not.

Kapag ganito, we will also miss the joy of doing mission.

Babalik ka sa Trust in the Lord.

Pinagdasal mo succesful.

Pinagdasal mo palpak.

Thank and Trust pa rin.

4. -Let’s continue to offer our 5 loaves and two fish to the Lord, including our imperfections. And He will bless it exponentially.

- Be humble

We strip ourselves of our experiences , talents and knowledge , when we come before God. Then we can expect power from Him.

- Pray unceasingly

- Be vigilant

Hi Bro Noel, as I reflect on your sharing I was brought to memory lane during my days as the National Administrator of CYA. I was humbled before the Lord on how He changed my outlook in service. It is pure grace from above so that we can be humble enough to face God on whatever outcome of the things that we do. Mabuhay ka bro at lagi kitang ipagdadasal 🙏🏻.

#28 · February 20, 2024, 10:47 pm

- Trusting in the Holy Spirit is not totally relying in your own strength but also relying on what God can do or will do or directing us to do. It is not bad to rely on our own strength but the tendency in doing this, is it sometime tempts us to fully acknowledge that it was all from us or about us. I remember that when God chooses his servantse, they are mostly not based on what they think they can do but what God believes they can do. So it entails believing that we can do more with the Holy Spirit on our side.

(2) We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

- Danger is not acknowledging that God is at work and the enemy’s lie that it was all about us. In some other instances, the enemy might even test our decisions. It then requires us to be firm and fully trust in God no matter what.

- Most of the time, this happens when we are assigned to serve in areas where we are really good at. It is so easy to rely in ones self

#29 · February 20, 2024, 10:58 pm

Quote from Dom Hormigos on February 20, 2024, 10:58 pm
(1) How do you know when you’re trusting in the Holy Spirit, and when you’re trusting in your own strengths? Is it a bad thing to rely on your own strengths, especially if you know you have the competence, capabilities and/or resources?

- Trusting in the Holy Spirit is not totally relying in your own strength but also relying on what God can do or will do or directing us to do. It is not bad to rely on our own strength but the tendency in doing this, is it sometime tempts us to fully acknowledge that it was all from us or about us. I remember that when God chooses his servantse, they are mostly not based on what they think they can do but what God believes they can do. So it entails believing that we can do more with the Holy Spirit on our side.

(2) We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

- Danger is not acknowledging that God is at work and the enemy’s lie that it was all about us. In some other instances, the enemy might even test our decisions. It then requires us to be firm and fully trust in God no matter what.

(3) How real is this possibility in your current state of service: that there would be moments when we behave as if we don’t need Jesus in our lives? Like, in what situations had you (before), or might you (in the future), be confident on your own capabilities, and how are you prone to taking matters into our hands?

- Most of the time, this happens when we are assigned to serve in areas where we are really good at. It is so easy to rely in one’s capability. The sad thing is when it happens, we are usually unaware that we are already missing out Jesus’ role in this service. I remember that when we often look for new branch leaders in Lingkod most of the time , the one chosen is the one who is not fully able but more on basis of being available and the one who we know will rely in God’s strength and not fully in one’s self.

Finally, what kind of support can you seek from, and give to, your fellow leaders to ensure that our faith and trust in the Lord is solid, and so that we can live out this exhortation by Paul: 1 Cor. 15:58 – “Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.

- The support that we need is the wisdom that comes from the brother’s in the community who have deeper knowledge on how God works in our life. I see that this group provides that needed support. Both giving and receiving / Learning and sharing.

(2) We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

- Most of the time, this happens when we are assigned to serve in areas where we are really good at. It is so easy to rely in one’s capability. The sad thing is when it happens, we are usually unaware that we are already missing out Jesus’ role in this service. I remember that when we often look for new branch leaders in Lingkod most of the time , the one chosen is the one who is not fully able but more on basis of being available and the one who we know will rely in God’s strength and not fully in one’s self.

- The support that we need is the wisdom that comes from the brother’s in the community who have deeper knowledge on how God works in our life. I see that this group provides that needed support. Both giving and receiving / Learning and sharing.

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#30 · February 21, 2024, 9:50 am

Quote from Jordan Echague on February 21, 2024, 9:50 am

Quote from Alan Santos on February 13, 2024, 4:48 pm

How do you know when you’re trusting in the Holy Spirit, and when you’re trusting in your own strengths? Is it a bad thing to rely on your own strengths, especially if you know you have the competence, capabilities and/or resources?

Each one of us has his own competence, capabilities and resources that we are good at, many are good at leading gatherings and prayer meetings, I however would rather serve in the background. Preparing for a district gathering or worship is something I would rather not do. I guess it’s really lifting everything up to the Lord, allowing the Holy Spirit to guide you and trust that all will be well with the preparations that was done.

We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

The danger of pride thinking that we succeeded on our own capacity, seeking/expecting self-glory and praise.

How real is this possibility in your current state of service: that there would be moments when we behave as if we don’t need Jesus in our lives? Like, in what situations had you (before), or might you (in the future), be confident on your own capabilities, and how are you prone to taking matters into our hands?

Serving as Sector Servant & Treasurer, there are occasions when my self-righteousness takes over and my patience is tested. It is during these times that I stop whatever I’m doing and come before the Lord to ask for forgiveness and guidance.

Finally, what kind of support can you seek from, and give to, your fellow leaders to ensure that our faith and trust in the Lord is solid, and so that we can live out this exhortation by Paul: 1 Cor. 15:58 – “Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.”

I continue to give thanks to my brothers who continue to guide me and at times, exhort me. Their advice is truly invaluable. An open mind and an open heart is what I seek and give to my fellow leaders.

Kuya Alan, same as you I prefer doing admin and logistics instead of being in front leading. Probably because I'm afraid to be used by God. I'm afraid of trusting in His spirit to lead me. I'm afraid of looking like a fool.

I share this because I also feel a great amount of personal pride when I lead. I guess the evil one works by toying with our feelings.

But I know that if we continue to pray and continue to rely on God's grace for strength, all these efforts by the evil one will be in vain. God will always use His Spirit to remind us how much He is pleased when we do His work. And we will always be joyful in doing His work because of our love for Him.

Quote from Alan Santos on February 13, 2024, 4:48 pm

How do you know when you’re trusting in the Holy Spirit, and when you’re trusting in your own strengths? Is it a bad thing to rely on your own strengths, especially if you know you have the competence, capabilities and/or resources?

Each one of us has his own competence, capabilities and resources that we are good at, many are good at leading gatherings and prayer meetings, I however would rather serve in the background. Preparing for a district gathering or worship is something I would rather not do. I guess it’s really lifting everything up to the Lord, allowing the Holy Spirit to guide you and trust that all will be well with the preparations that was done.

We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

The danger of pride thinking that we succeeded on our own capacity, seeking/expecting self-glory and praise.

How real is this possibility in your current state of service: that there would be moments when we behave as if we don’t need Jesus in our lives? Like, in what situations had you (before), or might you (in the future), be confident on your own capabilities, and how are you prone to taking matters into our hands?

Serving as Sector Servant & Treasurer, there are occasions when my self-righteousness takes over and my patience is tested. It is during these times that I stop whatever I’m doing and come before the Lord to ask for forgiveness and guidance.

Finally, what kind of support can you seek from, and give to, your fellow leaders to ensure that our faith and trust in the Lord is solid, and so that we can live out this exhortation by Paul: 1 Cor. 15:58 – “Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.”

I continue to give thanks to my brothers who continue to guide me and at times, exhort me. Their advice is truly invaluable. An open mind and an open heart is what I seek and give to my fellow leaders.

Kuya Alan, same as you I prefer doing admin and logistics instead of being in front leading. Probably because I'm afraid to be used by God. I'm afraid of trusting in His spirit to lead me. I'm afraid of looking like a fool.

I share this because I also feel a great amount of personal pride when I lead. I guess the evil one works by toying with our feelings.

But I know that if we continue to pray and continue to rely on God's grace for strength, all these efforts by the evil one will be in vain. God will always use His Spirit to remind us how much He is pleased when we do His work. And we will always be joyful in doing His work because of our love for Him.

#31 · February 21, 2024, 3:11 pm

Quote from Alan Santos on February 21, 2024, 3:11 pm

Quote from Erick Flores on February 18, 2024, 11:45 pm

(1) How do you know when you’re trusting in the Holy Spirit, and when you’re trusting in your own strengths? Is it a bad thing to rely on your own strengths, especially if you know you have the competence, capabilities and/or resources?

When the result of my work aligns with the fruit of the Spirit, I know that I have submitted well to His will and purpose. Whenever I recognize myself overcome by doubt and fear, I know that I am relying on my own strength.

We submit everything to the Lord, especially, our own strentghs, if we want follow Him. Everything came from Him and are intended for His purpose and glory.

(2) We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

The danger is when we begin to take pride on those success and unknowingly start to highlight ourselves in those works instead of God. We need to check who remains as the King enthroned in our hearts.

(3) How real is this possibility in your current state of service: that there would be moments when we behave as if we don’t need Jesus in our lives? Like, in what situations had you (before), or might you (in the future), be confident on your own capabilities, and how are you prone to taking matters into our hands?

One area I can think of is care for the brothers entrusted to me when having meeting with them after texting a concern that they have. My tendency is to be a problem solver and to save them from their situation.

In times like this, I need to constantly remind myself to, first of all, invite the Holy Spirit for the grace to understand and really care for the brother. Then I would realize that sometimes, all he need is just someone to listen. And many times, the Lord magnifies to me that I don’t have all the right answers and consulting a brother wiser with experience is the best care we can give.

Finally, what kind of support can you seek from, and give to, your fellow leaders to ensure that our faith and trust in the Lord is solid, and so that we can live out this exhortation by Paul: 1 Cor. 15:58 – “Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.”

Let us pray for each other brothers, especially, in this times that the Lord consistently revealed, in the Feast of the Covenant and in this topic on Stability, that Satan is pounding hard on our gates to bring fear and confusion among us. That the Lord’s grace and mercy would abound in us to make us living stones joined in Christ who is our Firm foundation and our Corner stone. And take a stand against the work of the enemy.

It's been a many years since I've been a PL due to my current service, however, I have learned we will not have all the answers. I agree with you, being compassionate and just listening to the brother will give comfort and assurance to him. Showing that we love and care for him is what the Lord is asking from us.

Quote from Erick Flores on February 18, 2024, 11:45 pm

(1) How do you know when you’re trusting in the Holy Spirit, and when you’re trusting in your own strengths? Is it a bad thing to rely on your own strengths, especially if you know you have the competence, capabilities and/or resources?

When the result of my work aligns with the fruit of the Spirit, I know that I have submitted well to His will and purpose. Whenever I recognize myself overcome by doubt and fear, I know that I am relying on my own strength.

We submit everything to the Lord, especially, our own strentghs, if we want follow Him. Everything came from Him and are intended for His purpose and glory.

(2) We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

The danger is when we begin to take pride on those success and unknowingly start to highlight ourselves in those works instead of God. We need to check who remains as the King enthroned in our hearts.

(3) How real is this possibility in your current state of service: that there would be moments when we behave as if we don’t need Jesus in our lives? Like, in what situations had you (before), or might you (in the future), be confident on your own capabilities, and how are you prone to taking matters into our hands?

One area I can think of is care for the brothers entrusted to me when having meeting with them after texting a concern that they have. My tendency is to be a problem solver and to save them from their situation.

In times like this, I need to constantly remind myself to, first of all, invite the Holy Spirit for the grace to understand and really care for the brother. Then I would realize that sometimes, all he need is just someone to listen. And many times, the Lord magnifies to me that I don’t have all the right answers and consulting a brother wiser with experience is the best care we can give.

Finally, what kind of support can you seek from, and give to, your fellow leaders to ensure that our faith and trust in the Lord is solid, and so that we can live out this exhortation by Paul: 1 Cor. 15:58 – “Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.”

Let us pray for each other brothers, especially, in this times that the Lord consistently revealed, in the Feast of the Covenant and in this topic on Stability, that Satan is pounding hard on our gates to bring fear and confusion among us. That the Lord’s grace and mercy would abound in us to make us living stones joined in Christ who is our Firm foundation and our Corner stone. And take a stand against the work of the enemy.

It's been a many years since I've been a PL due to my current service, however, I have learned we will not have all the answers. I agree with you, being compassionate and just listening to the brother will give comfort and assurance to him. Showing that we love and care for him is what the Lord is asking from us.

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#32 · February 21, 2024, 3:34 pm

Quote from Alan Santos on February 21, 2024, 3:34 pm

Quote from Gary Mercado on February 11, 2024, 1:01 pm

(1) How do you know when you’re trusting in the Holy Spirit, and when you’re trusting in your own strengths? Is it a bad thing to rely on your own strengths, especially if you know you have the competence, capabilities and/or resources?

I feel that it is necessary to call upon on our own strengths to deliver a job. But to rely solely on your own strengths and not acknowledge the Holy Spirit in the work that you do and accomplish is foolish.

For a talk, I lay the groundwork and objectives of what I understand is needed. I pray for it while I work on the project. It takes days to “complete” the work and even a few minutes before the event, I pray and make last minute changes. I know the Holy Spirit has worked thru me when I discover that the end product, “the message” is different from my initial personal thought.

There is usually a fear that envelopes me when I start developing the task and at these times, this is because I rely only on my strengths. Once the talk gets to its final stages, I feel a certain calmness bec I surmise the Holy Spirit has provided the wisdom to the message. At this point I feel free and comforted.

(2) We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

There is always an unavoidable amount of pride in doing a task well and being acknowledged by your peers. I believe that it is part of God’s gift for your obedience. It becomes dangerous when a worker enjoys the acknowledgement so much that he works for the purpose of being praised. I always remind myself while being humanly proud of the accomplishment, that this is God’s work and without the Holy Spirit I could not have completed the task.

(3) How real is this possibility in your current state of service: that there would be moments when we behave as if we don’t need Jesus in our lives? Like, in what situations had you (before), or might you (in the future), be confident on your own capabilities, and how are you prone to taking matters into our hands?

The possibility of relying solely on your own strengths is real in the Christian service that we do. In as much as I would hope the Holy Spirit to be involved in all the activities and tasks of my daily life, in fact, I do not. I do the secular tasks on my own and unfortunately that behavior may spill into my Christian service. Actually it should be the other way around. Prayer before action is the only way to prevent it from happening. A prayer pause is always necessary.

Finally, what kind of support can you seek from, and give to, your fellow leaders to ensure that our faith and trust in the Lord is solid, and so that we can live out this exhortation by Paul: 1 Cor. 15:58 – “Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.”

Prayers for each other is important. Sharing your difficulties with your faith makes the struggle real while sharing your triumphs are encouraging. Patience and understanding of each other is comforting. We are called at different times of our lives and for different tasks and roles. Let’s all walk, accepting of our different paces, but leaving for each other marks to follow, all towards the same goal.

Gary, your reflections truly show that we are human but at the same time reliant to the will of the Lord. As such, we continue to trust in the Holy Spirit, knowing that through the power of the Holy Spirit, we are able to do God's work in whatever service He calls us for. God bless you!

Quote from Gary Mercado on February 11, 2024, 1:01 pm

(1) How do you know when you’re trusting in the Holy Spirit, and when you’re trusting in your own strengths? Is it a bad thing to rely on your own strengths, especially if you know you have the competence, capabilities and/or resources?

I feel that it is necessary to call upon on our own strengths to deliver a job. But to rely solely on your own strengths and not acknowledge the Holy Spirit in the work that you do and accomplish is foolish.

For a talk, I lay the groundwork and objectives of what I understand is needed. I pray for it while I work on the project. It takes days to “complete” the work and even a few minutes before the event, I pray and make last minute changes. I know the Holy Spirit has worked thru me when I discover that the end product, “the message” is different from my initial personal thought.

There is usually a fear that envelopes me when I start developing the task and at these times, this is because I rely only on my strengths. Once the talk gets to its final stages, I feel a certain calmness bec I surmise the Holy Spirit has provided the wisdom to the message. At this point I feel free and comforted.

(2) We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

There is always an unavoidable amount of pride in doing a task well and being acknowledged by your peers. I believe that it is part of God’s gift for your obedience. It becomes dangerous when a worker enjoys the acknowledgement so much that he works for the purpose of being praised. I always remind myself while being humanly proud of the accomplishment, that this is God’s work and without the Holy Spirit I could not have completed the task.

(3) How real is this possibility in your current state of service: that there would be moments when we behave as if we don’t need Jesus in our lives? Like, in what situations had you (before), or might you (in the future), be confident on your own capabilities, and how are you prone to taking matters into our hands?

The possibility of relying solely on your own strengths is real in the Christian service that we do. In as much as I would hope the Holy Spirit to be involved in all the activities and tasks of my daily life, in fact, I do not. I do the secular tasks on my own and unfortunately that behavior may spill into my Christian service. Actually it should be the other way around. Prayer before action is the only way to prevent it from happening. A prayer pause is always necessary.

Finally, what kind of support can you seek from, and give to, your fellow leaders to ensure that our faith and trust in the Lord is solid, and so that we can live out this exhortation by Paul: 1 Cor. 15:58 – “Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.”

Prayers for each other is important. Sharing your difficulties with your faith makes the struggle real while sharing your triumphs are encouraging. Patience and understanding of each other is comforting. We are called at different times of our lives and for different tasks and roles. Let’s all walk, accepting of our different paces, but leaving for each other marks to follow, all towards the same goal.

Gary, your reflections truly show that we are human but at the same time reliant to the will of the Lord. As such, we continue to trust in the Holy Spirit, knowing that through the power of the Holy Spirit, we are able to do God's work in whatever service He calls us for. God bless you!

#33 · February 21, 2024, 3:51 pm

Quote from Jorel Mateo on February 19, 2024, 8:35 am

I still don't know if I am now relying on the Holy Spirit. I believe and know that I still rely on my own strengths and capabilities. I would like to pray that I would learn and rely on the Holy Spirit first.

Success is not a bad thing. But, we should watch out for success. We may think that we did it ourselves, we may believe too much on our own capabilities and not reply on the Holy Spirit and the Lord.

For me, it is still very real, and because of instinct and training. I would like to learn more on how not to act and decide by myself. I learn from scriptures that it is the Lord's work which does and provide everything for us. Miracles, acts, etc. Most likely, putting him first rather than me is the first step to take. However, it is easier said s done as of the moment.

Just like you, I am also still a work in progress. I continually rely on the Holy Spirit for guidance in all that I do. Being with brothers who have accepted the call to serve the Lord continues to give me the strength and assurance that despite my many shortcomings, I know that all will be well. May the Lord continue to use you in a powerful way! Have faith and trust in the Lord.

#34 · February 22, 2024, 8:32 am

Quote from Noel Lugue on February 22, 2024, 8:32 am

Quote from Joseph Henson on February 18, 2024, 3:41 am

(1) How do you know when you’re trusting in the Holy Spirit, and when you’re trusting in your own strengths? Is it a bad thing to rely on your own strengths, especially if you know you have the competence, capabilities and/or resources?

One indicator of trusting in the Holy Spirit for me is when I see the manifestation of the fruit of the Spirit – love, joy, peace, etc. in the service. When I am trusting in my own strengths, I tend to be more anxious or less loving.

I guess the operative word is “rely”. We may utilize our strengths, but to “rely” implies dependence on that (which may not be dependable), which should only be for God.

(2) We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

Aside from looking too much at ourselves, one other danger is to start focusing on the success and the fruit, such that it becomes the ultimate end of the service. This may result in not acknowledging the Lord, having the end justify the means, becoming the only measure of success, or being discouraged when the service “fails”.

(3) How real is this possibility in your current state of service: that there would be moments when we behave as if we don’t need Jesus in our lives? Like, in what situations had you (before), or might you (in the future), be confident on your own capabilities, and how are you prone to taking matters into our hands?

Very real. Thinking about it now, I may not lift up routinary or administrative type of work. Sometimes in my rush or busyness, I may say a hurried prayer but my mind may not be into it. Or I may ignore a potential sense from the Lord and rely on my logic instead.

Finally, what kind of support can you seek from, and give to, your fellow leaders to ensure that our faith and trust in the Lord is solid, and so that we can live out this exhortation by Paul: 1 Cor. 15:58 – “Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.”

Prayers for one another. Encouragement, exhortation and reminders. Good examples to witness.

Comment :

Thank you for your sharing ;

"One indicator of trusting in the Holy Spirit for me is when I see the manifestation of the fruit of the Spirit – love, joy, peace, etc. in the service.

Your reflection is related to Matt. 7:15–20

When it talks also about a person , "By their fruit you shall know them."

I just realized that a lot of times I am mixing result with fruit.

Thus , results of our choices may not be good from our perspective, but when

it yields service and love and joy, even at a later time then it surely yields fruit of the Holy Spirit.

Quote from Joseph Henson on February 18, 2024, 3:41 am

(1) How do you know when you’re trusting in the Holy Spirit, and when you’re trusting in your own strengths? Is it a bad thing to rely on your own strengths, especially if you know you have the competence, capabilities and/or resources?

One indicator of trusting in the Holy Spirit for me is when I see the manifestation of the fruit of the Spirit – love, joy, peace, etc. in the service. When I am trusting in my own strengths, I tend to be more anxious or less loving.

I guess the operative word is “rely”. We may utilize our strengths, but to “rely” implies dependence on that (which may not be dependable), which should only be for God.

(2) We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

Aside from looking too much at ourselves, one other danger is to start focusing on the success and the fruit, such that it becomes the ultimate end of the service. This may result in not acknowledging the Lord, having the end justify the means, becoming the only measure of success, or being discouraged when the service “fails”.

(3) How real is this possibility in your current state of service: that there would be moments when we behave as if we don’t need Jesus in our lives? Like, in what situations had you (before), or might you (in the future), be confident on your own capabilities, and how are you prone to taking matters into our hands?

Very real. Thinking about it now, I may not lift up routinary or administrative type of work. Sometimes in my rush or busyness, I may say a hurried prayer but my mind may not be into it. Or I may ignore a potential sense from the Lord and rely on my logic instead.

Finally, what kind of support can you seek from, and give to, your fellow leaders to ensure that our faith and trust in the Lord is solid, and so that we can live out this exhortation by Paul: 1 Cor. 15:58 – “Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.”

Prayers for one another. Encouragement, exhortation and reminders. Good examples to witness.

Comment :

Thank you for your sharing ;

"One indicator of trusting in the Holy Spirit for me is when I see the manifestation of the fruit of the Spirit – love, joy, peace, etc. in the service.

Your reflection is related to Matt. 7:15–20

When it talks also about a person , "By their fruit you shall know them."

I just realized that a lot of times I am mixing result with fruit.

Thus , results of our choices may not be good from our perspective, but when

it yields service and love and joy, even at a later time then it surely yields fruit of the Holy Spirit.

#35 · February 22, 2024, 9:45 am

We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

The challenge to people like us is the reality of spiritual warfare. The devil is always there to harass us. Sabi nga ni Brother Francis Nob "Ang tao na nalapit sa liwanag ay lumalaki ang nakasunod na anino".

It is not easy to follow God in this kind of world. We need constant prayers for the Holy Spirit intervention and protection against evil influences.

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#36 · February 26, 2024, 8:42 pm

Quote from Joseph Henson on February 26, 2024, 8:42 pm

Quote from MarYo Galvez on February 10, 2024, 11:48 pm

How do you know when you’re trusting in the Holy Spirit, and when you’re trusting in your own strengths? Is it a bad thing to rely on your own strengths, especially if you know you have the competence, capabilities and/or resources?

Personal indicators in trusting in the spirit for me is when I: 1) say yes to an urgent or unfamiliar service; 2) seek advise from peers and other senior leaders; 3) longer prayer time; and 4) call for fasting. As long as it is clear with that saying YES is a product of prayer or trust in the Lord, I am certain to use 110% effort and abilities.

We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

The pitfalls of discipleship bearing fruit for me are: 1) false courage of taking on more roles in service (“Kaya ko pa yan, ako na rin diyan”); 2) expectation of the same fruitfulness experience in fellow leaders or members (“nung naranasan ko din yan ito ginawa ko); and 3) consulting less and trust more on your own strengths (“proven naman na diskarte ko”).

How real is this possibility in your current state of service: that there would be moments when we behave as if we don’t need Jesus in our lives? Like, in what situations had you (before), or might you (in the future), be confident on your own capabilities, and how are you prone to taking matters into our hands?

I am thankful right now for moments when I am asked to say “yes” to a service or calling because it automatically leads me to a conversation with Him therefore a constant need for His presence. This is a better life than the first years of my adult life with no religion, no god, no fear of the consequences in life.

Finally, what kind of support can you seek from, and give to, your fellow leaders to ensure that our faith and trust in the Lord is solid, and so that we can live out this exhortation by Paul: 1 Cor. 15:58 – “Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.”

Giving honest feedback especially among brothers is a kind of support I greatly appreciate in the community.

Bro Yo, you always give the most relatable examples in your responses, borne of much experience and reflection. There are a number of points that struck me:

Fasting – something I should be doing again when preparing for a service

False courage in taking on more roles – I guess it was ingrained in us during Lingkod days not to say “no” to service, but I can recall times when I should have said no in order to do the things that Lord wants me to prioritize as well as to provide others the opportunity to serve.

Expectation of same fruitfulness experience – yes, the pitfall of the “templated” approach, which I rely on often, but may not allow the Spirit to work more powerfully

I also love how you said you will give “110%” effort and abilities, which goes to show how the Lord multiplies the little offerings we make. =) Looking forward to serving with you again someday, bro. Which reminds me, may consult ako sa iyo about a service. =D

Quote from MarYo Galvez on February 10, 2024, 11:48 pm

How do you know when you’re trusting in the Holy Spirit, and when you’re trusting in your own strengths? Is it a bad thing to rely on your own strengths, especially if you know you have the competence, capabilities and/or resources?

Personal indicators in trusting in the spirit for me is when I: 1) say yes to an urgent or unfamiliar service; 2) seek advise from peers and other senior leaders; 3) longer prayer time; and 4) call for fasting. As long as it is clear with that saying YES is a product of prayer or trust in the Lord, I am certain to use 110% effort and abilities.

We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

The pitfalls of discipleship bearing fruit for me are: 1) false courage of taking on more roles in service (“Kaya ko pa yan, ako na rin diyan”); 2) expectation of the same fruitfulness experience in fellow leaders or members (“nung naranasan ko din yan ito ginawa ko); and 3) consulting less and trust more on your own strengths (“proven naman na diskarte ko”).

How real is this possibility in your current state of service: that there would be moments when we behave as if we don’t need Jesus in our lives? Like, in what situations had you (before), or might you (in the future), be confident on your own capabilities, and how are you prone to taking matters into our hands?

I am thankful right now for moments when I am asked to say “yes” to a service or calling because it automatically leads me to a conversation with Him therefore a constant need for His presence. This is a better life than the first years of my adult life with no religion, no god, no fear of the consequences in life.

Finally, what kind of support can you seek from, and give to, your fellow leaders to ensure that our faith and trust in the Lord is solid, and so that we can live out this exhortation by Paul: 1 Cor. 15:58 – “Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.”

Giving honest feedback especially among brothers is a kind of support I greatly appreciate in the community.

Bro Yo, you always give the most relatable examples in your responses, borne of much experience and reflection. There are a number of points that struck me:

Fasting – something I should be doing again when preparing for a service
False courage in taking on more roles – I guess it was ingrained in us during Lingkod days not to say “no” to service, but I can recall times when I should have said no in order to do the things that Lord wants me to prioritize as well as to provide others the opportunity to serve.
Expectation of same fruitfulness experience – yes, the pitfall of the “templated” approach, which I rely on often, but may not allow the Spirit to work more powerfully

I also love how you said you will give “110%” effort and abilities, which goes to show how the Lord multiplies the little offerings we make. =) Looking forward to serving with you again someday, bro. Which reminds me, may consult ako sa iyo about a service. =D

#37 · February 26, 2024, 9:00 pm

Quote from Joseph Henson on February 26, 2024, 9:00 pm

Quote from Dennis Sulit on February 19, 2024, 2:33 am

(1) How do you know when you’re trusting in the Holy Spirit, and when you’re trusting in your own strengths? Is it a bad thing to rely on your own strengths, especially if you know you have the competence, capabilities and/or resources?

In my profession, we are trained to use our skills and resources to recognize and respond promptly to a problem or situation. I have personally experienced Kairos moments wherein it is only when I totally surrendered a situation to the Holy Spirit and the outcome cannot be explained by anything except but that it was a moment of grace. Over the years I have learned to call on the Holy Spirit first then use my skills and resources afterwards. I find myself more at peace when guided by the Holy Spirit and doing God’s will even when the outcomes are not desirable from our perspective.

(2) We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

I must admit there are moments when I am filled with pride for the success of a service or the accomplishments of a member under my care. I take great caution in not reveling in the accolades and always remember to give thanks to God and to give Him all the credit. I have made it a habit to give thanks to God even for the challenges and struggles as well because I know He has not abandoned me. My protection is to pray and give thanks always. (1 Thes 5:16-18) “Rejoice, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus”.

(3) How real is this possibility in your current state of service: that there would be moments when we behave as if we don’t need Jesus in our lives? Like, in what situations had you (before), or might you (in the future), be confident on your own capabilities, and how are you prone to taking matters into our hands?

My love language is service. So my natural response to God’s unconditional love for me is to serve unconditionally. I have often been asked to serve in areas that are not in my skill set. I am comforted in my discomfort of my service because I know it is only through the grace of the Holy Spirit working in me that I am able to serve in my capacity. I become wary when I start to become comfortable in my service and feel that there are no problems that I start to think that I am in control. I always keep the image of the unprofitable servant as I have only done which was our duty to do.

Finally, what kind of support can you seek from, and give to, your fellow leaders to ensure that our faith and trust in the Lord is solid, and so that we can live out this exhortation by Paul: 1 Cor. 15:58 – “Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.”

Our role as leaders is difficult and we are blessed to have a group of brothers who are both human and models of faith and a source of encouragement. The early church started with leaders telling stories, giving feedback and exhorting one another to remain faithful. I am encouraged the Spirit of the church lives on in our community.

Thank you, Bro Doc Dennis, for how you allow the Spirit to work through you. Kita naman in how we are encouraged even if you are just making an announcement during the SA. =) Also, how you humbly take on so many big and small tasks even if you are a well respected doctor. The point that struck me most is the order in which you pray to the Lord first before you apply your skills and resources. It reminded me how recently at work, I prayed for a project only when we were already encountering problems. Though I pray for my work in general at the beginning of the day, I may not be allowing the Lord to encounter me in more specific circumstances, like work projects, throughout my day. Thank you for also pointing out how blessed we are in community to be surrounded by models of faith and sources of encouragement. =)

Quote from Dennis Sulit on February 19, 2024, 2:33 am

(1) How do you know when you’re trusting in the Holy Spirit, and when you’re trusting in your own strengths? Is it a bad thing to rely on your own strengths, especially if you know you have the competence, capabilities and/or resources?

In my profession, we are trained to use our skills and resources to recognize and respond promptly to a problem or situation. I have personally experienced Kairos moments wherein it is only when I totally surrendered a situation to the Holy Spirit and the outcome cannot be explained by anything except but that it was a moment of grace. Over the years I have learned to call on the Holy Spirit first then use my skills and resources afterwards. I find myself more at peace when guided by the Holy Spirit and doing God’s will even when the outcomes are not desirable from our perspective.

(2) We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

I must admit there are moments when I am filled with pride for the success of a service or the accomplishments of a member under my care. I take great caution in not reveling in the accolades and always remember to give thanks to God and to give Him all the credit. I have made it a habit to give thanks to God even for the challenges and struggles as well because I know He has not abandoned me. My protection is to pray and give thanks always. (1 Thes 5:16-18) “Rejoice, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus”.

(3) How real is this possibility in your current state of service: that there would be moments when we behave as if we don’t need Jesus in our lives? Like, in what situations had you (before), or might you (in the future), be confident on your own capabilities, and how are you prone to taking matters into our hands?

My love language is service. So my natural response to God’s unconditional love for me is to serve unconditionally. I have often been asked to serve in areas that are not in my skill set. I am comforted in my discomfort of my service because I know it is only through the grace of the Holy Spirit working in me that I am able to serve in my capacity. I become wary when I start to become comfortable in my service and feel that there are no problems that I start to think that I am in control. I always keep the image of the unprofitable servant as I have only done which was our duty to do.

Finally, what kind of support can you seek from, and give to, your fellow leaders to ensure that our faith and trust in the Lord is solid, and so that we can live out this exhortation by Paul: 1 Cor. 15:58 – “Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.”

Our role as leaders is difficult and we are blessed to have a group of brothers who are both human and models of faith and a source of encouragement. The early church started with leaders telling stories, giving feedback and exhorting one another to remain faithful. I am encouraged the Spirit of the church lives on in our community.

Thank you, Bro Doc Dennis, for how you allow the Spirit to work through you. Kita naman in how we are encouraged even if you are just making an announcement during the SA. =) Also, how you humbly take on so many big and small tasks even if you are a well respected doctor. The point that struck me most is the order in which you pray to the Lord first before you apply your skills and resources. It reminded me how recently at work, I prayed for a project only when we were already encountering problems. Though I pray for my work in general at the beginning of the day, I may not be allowing the Lord to encounter me in more specific circumstances, like work projects, throughout my day. Thank you for also pointing out how blessed we are in community to be surrounded by models of faith and sources of encouragement. =)

#38 · February 26, 2024, 9:05 pm

Quote from Jorel Mateo on February 19, 2024, 8:35 am

I still don't know if I am now relying on the Holy Spirit. I believe and know that I still rely on my own strengths and capabilities. I would like to pray that I would learn and rely on the Holy Spirit first.

Success is not a bad thing. But, we should watch out for success. We may think that we did it ourselves, we may believe too much on our own capabilities and not reply on the Holy Spirit and the Lord.

For me, it is still very real, and because of instinct and training. I would like to learn more on how not to act and decide by myself. I learn from scriptures that it is the Lord's work which does and provide everything for us. Miracles, acts, etc. Most likely, putting him first rather than me is the first step to take. However, it is easier said than done as of the moment.

Thanks, bro Jorel, for your rigorous honesty in admitting weaknesses and challenges. Yet, you also offer solutions and helpful perspectives to allow us to be better. May the Spirit to continue to work in and through you, as well as each and everyone of us, for His greater glory.

#39 · February 27, 2024, 12:37 am

Quote from MarYo Galvez on February 27, 2024, 12:37 am

Quote from Dom Hormigos on February 20, 2024, 10:58 pm

(1) How do you know when you’re trusting in the Holy Spirit, and when you’re trusting in your own strengths? Is it a bad thing to rely on your own strengths, especially if you know you have the competence, capabilities and/or resources?

- Trusting in the Holy Spirit is not totally relying in your own strength but also relying on what God can do or will do or directing us to do. It is not bad to rely on our own strength but the tendency in doing this, is it sometime tempts us to fully acknowledge that it was all from us or about us. I remember that when God chooses his servantse, they are mostly not based on what they think they can do but what God believes they can do. So it entails believing that we can do more with the Holy Spirit on our side.

(2) We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

- Danger is not acknowledging that God is at work and the enemy’s lie that it was all about us. In some other instances, the enemy might even test our decisions. It then requires us to be firm and fully trust in God no matter what.

(3) How real is this possibility in your current state of service: that there would be moments when we behave as if we don’t need Jesus in our lives? Like, in what situations had you (before), or might you (in the future), be confident on your own capabilities, and how are you prone to taking matters into our hands?

- Most of the time, this happens when we are assigned to serve in areas where we are really good at. It is so easy to rely in one’s capability. The sad thing is when it happens, we are usually unaware that we are already missing out Jesus’ role in this service. I remember that when we often look for new branch leaders in Lingkod most of the time , the one chosen is the one who is not fully able but more on basis of being available and the one who we know will rely in God’s strength and not fully in one’s self.

Finally, what kind of support can you seek from, and give to, your fellow leaders to ensure that our faith and trust in the Lord is solid, and so that we can live out this exhortation by Paul: 1 Cor. 15:58 – “Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.

- The support that we need is the wisdom that comes from the brother’s in the community who have deeper knowledge on how God works in our life. I see that this group provides that needed support. Both giving and receiving / Learning and sharing.

Amen to your statement Bro Dom that "So it entails believing that we can do more with the Holy Spirit on our side." We underestimate the power of the Holy Spirit in our lives to lift us up in honoring Him and stretch ourselves to do more for Him.

Amen din "the enemy might even test our decisions." When you are comfortable of the decisions you have prayed for and knowing that it is from God, sometimes the comfort level gets scary but more a call to pray harder and seek Him more deeply.

Amen to reminding me that "the one chosen is the one who is not fully able but more on basis of being available and the one who we know will rely in God’s strength and not fully in one’s self." Hindi mahirap magpakumbaba sa Panginoon kung totoo tayo sa Panginoon.

Quote from Dom Hormigos on February 20, 2024, 10:58 pm

(1) How do you know when you’re trusting in the Holy Spirit, and when you’re trusting in your own strengths? Is it a bad thing to rely on your own strengths, especially if you know you have the competence, capabilities and/or resources?

- Trusting in the Holy Spirit is not totally relying in your own strength but also relying on what God can do or will do or directing us to do. It is not bad to rely on our own strength but the tendency in doing this, is it sometime tempts us to fully acknowledge that it was all from us or about us. I remember that when God chooses his servantse, they are mostly not based on what they think they can do but what God believes they can do. So it entails believing that we can do more with the Holy Spirit on our side.

(2) We know that the Holy Spirit empowers us to do what God has mandated us to do. But what danger do we face when we start succeeding and bearing fruit, and what are we to watch out for?

- Danger is not acknowledging that God is at work and the enemy’s lie that it was all about us. In some other instances, the enemy might even test our decisions. It then requires us to be firm and fully trust in God no matter what.

(3) How real is this possibility in your current state of service: that there would be moments when we behave as if we don’t need Jesus in our lives? Like, in what situations had you (before), or might you (in the future), be confident on your own capabilities, and how are you prone to taking matters into our hands?

- Most of the time, this happens when we are assigned to serve in areas where we are really good at. It is so easy to rely in one’s capability. The sad thing is when it happens, we are usually unaware that we are already missing out Jesus’ role in this service. I remember that when we often look for new branch leaders in Lingkod most of the time , the one chosen is the one who is not fully able but more on basis of being available and the one who we know will rely in God’s strength and not fully in one’s self.

Finally, what kind of support can you seek from, and give to, your fellow leaders to ensure that our faith and trust in the Lord is solid, and so that we can live out this exhortation by Paul: 1 Cor. 15:58 – “Be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord.

- The support that we need is the wisdom that comes from the brother’s in the community who have deeper knowledge on how God works in our life. I see that this group provides that needed support. Both giving and receiving / Learning and sharing.

Amen to your statement Bro Dom that "So it entails believing that we can do more with the Holy Spirit on our side." We underestimate the power of the Holy Spirit in our lives to lift us up in honoring Him and stretch ourselves to do more for Him.

Amen din "the enemy might even test our decisions." When you are comfortable of the decisions you have prayed for and knowing that it is from God, sometimes the comfort level gets scary but more a call to pray harder and seek Him more deeply.

Amen to reminding me that "the one chosen is the one who is not fully able but more on basis of being available and the one who we know will rely in God’s strength and not fully in one’s self." Hindi mahirap magpakumbaba sa Panginoon kung totoo tayo sa Panginoon.

#40 · February 27, 2024, 5:11 pm

Quote from Brien Myles Villamiel on February 27, 2024, 5:11 pm

Quote from Jordan Echague on February 9, 2024, 6:03 pm

Since I am an emotional person, relating to this chapter is easy for me. Peter's high emotions and overconfidence resonates with my personality. And I do sense that service in LNP comes easier for me because I've been exposed to our way of life since I was a young boy. Therefore, navigating through our weekly meetings and checklists is something that I am used to doing.

And with that familiarity, I am very vulnerable to serving others unreliant of God's grace and just powering through with my efforts. I am very conscious of this ever since because I want to do the Lord's work and not take credit. What I do is I try my best to give the spirit room to work. So when I lead worship or a prayer meeting, for example, I do my best to be guided by an outline but not follow a script. I pray to God that the Holy Spirit may come in and fill in for those moments that I did not prepare for. And may God's spirit work during these times when I rely on God.

To be honest brothers, I have a hard time giving the Holy Spirit room to work because I'm afraid that I'm not prayerful enough to be sensitive to His whispers. I'm afraid of silence whenever I call upon Him. But the Lord never fails and has never failed me. He has always been with me in every work done for Him.

My ritual whenever I'm asked to lead or to serve is that I take time to ask God what is His Will for me. I rarely recycle my talks or exhortations with the fear of using them as templates. And though I borrow elements and portions, I ask God how best can I deliver this talk on this specific time.

Brothers, I seek support from all of you by giving me sincere feedback in the work that I do for community. That I may be accountable to all of you by being dependent on God's Spirit whenever I do His work. I pray that the Lord uses me but I remain humble in my place as God's worker.

hi Jordan, in reading your reflection I am reminded of the saying... A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step! I have seen you taken many steps in your personal journey from the time we were together in UD! Allow me to say, you have come a long way. You have allowed yourself to grow within community, as a single person to a married man and now a father, aside from allowing yourself to be a Senior Leader! As a community kid myself, I am grateful to the Lord for calling you on to do more!

Rest assured that as our journey continues you are not alone... we all have baggages to carry. sabi ng ng GSW, there is strength in numbers... dagdag pa ni Chef Curry, [we] can do all things in Him who strengthens us!

Be kind to yourself bro... you have walked far... and yet our God beckons us to journey further.

Quote from Jordan Echague on February 9, 2024, 6:03 pm

Since I am an emotional person, relating to this chapter is easy for me. Peter's high emotions and overconfidence resonates with my personality. And I do sense that service in LNP comes easier for me because I've been exposed to our way of life since I was a young boy. Therefore, navigating through our weekly meetings and checklists is something that I am used to doing.

And with that familiarity, I am very vulnerable to serving others unreliant of God's grace and just powering through with my efforts. I am very conscious of this ever since because I want to do the Lord's work and not take credit. What I do is I try my best to give the spirit room to work. So when I lead worship or a prayer meeting, for example, I do my best to be guided by an outline but not follow a script. I pray to God that the Holy Spirit may come in and fill in for those moments that I did not prepare for. And may God's spirit work during these times when I rely on God.

To be honest brothers, I have a hard time giving the Holy Spirit room to work because I'm afraid that I'm not prayerful enough to be sensitive to His whispers. I'm afraid of silence whenever I call upon Him. But the Lord never fails and has never failed me. He has always been with me in every work done for Him.

My ritual whenever I'm asked to lead or to serve is that I take time to ask God what is His Will for me. I rarely recycle my talks or exhortations with the fear of using them as templates. And though I borrow elements and portions, I ask God how best can I deliver this talk on this specific time.

Brothers, I seek support from all of you by giving me sincere feedback in the work that I do for community. That I may be accountable to all of you by being dependent on God's Spirit whenever I do His work. I pray that the Lord uses me but I remain humble in my place as God's worker.

hi Jordan, in reading your reflection I am reminded of the saying... A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step! I have seen you taken many steps in your personal journey from the time we were together in UD! Allow me to say, you have come a long way. You have allowed yourself to grow within community, as a single person to a married man and now a father, aside from allowing yourself to be a Senior Leader! As a community kid myself, I am grateful to the Lord for calling you on to do more!

Rest assured that as our journey continues you are not alone... we all have baggages to carry. sabi ng ng GSW, there is strength in numbers... dagdag pa ni Chef Curry, [we] can do all things in Him who strengthens us!

Be kind to yourself bro... you have walked far... and yet our God beckons us to journey further.

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